stickykeys633:

msginnymalfoy:

i really really really wanna know what is it that tyler posey did that is problematic to deservethe endless hate he gets. and no, you cant use only fans or his infamous sterek statement as an excuse. i don’t find those even a bit problematic. and i am not saying this as a fan. i just wanna know why he gets the endless unreasonable hate, why it’s so normalized to bully him, body shame him for his uneven jaw. why is it okay to make disgusting remarks telling he is jobless and has to sell his body to make money etc etc etc. if you are on twitter you will see people bodyshaming him, calling him jobless, moneyhungry and what not. with so much foul intent. if you are instagram, you see people telling him k i l l himself. too many vile comments about literally every aspect of his life including his dead mother.

like, there has to be a reason, right? not even ab*sers or pedophiles get this kind of treatment. why don’t people talk about the unreasonable, harmful hate and bullying tyler gets? he has made a whole video almost breaking down saying people if were in bad mental condition, than him, couldn’t tolerate the immense and intense hate he gets. does mental health not matter when it comes to tyler posey?

i keep asking this question because i really wanna know why he gets this much hate and why don’t people say anything about it?

ps: if you are on twitter, you might have already seen a couple of hate tweets about him till now, and if you are on Instagram please check his comments section on his IG video and reels (Trigger warning- d*ath wishes, extreme bullying, vile comments)

Lol, tell me what Tyler Posey has done but also don’t because I don’t want to hear it.

Originally posted by pocketofpencils

But I’m not a stan!

Besides, there’s no real answer to this “question” because it’s using morality as a baseline. “What has he done to deserve this?” is not the same as “Why are people doing this?”

The former is a judgment statement not meant for actual clarification. While it is a debate to be had the nature of someone “deserving” to be “bullied” is pretty moot. He’s done some trifling things and the actions (and yes, fake coming out, his sterek comments, and getting on OF which hurt other users DO count whether you like it or not) and the severity are entirely subjective.

Now as to why it happens? Well that I can easily tell you.

Stans especially love to misunderstand that explaining why something happened is not the same as saying that it should have happened. They’ll mush it together so they have someone to point to as the bad guy. It’s boring and does nothing except let that person think they’re standing up to the bullies they never could in high school.

msginnymalfoy:

i really really really wanna know what is it that tyler posey did that is problematic to deservethe endless hate he gets. and no, you cant use only fans or his infamous sterek statement as an excuse. i don’t find those even a bit problematic. and i am not saying this as a fan. i just wanna know why he gets the endless unreasonable hate, why it’s so normalized to bully him, body shame him for his uneven jaw. why is it okay to make disgusting remarks telling he is jobless and has to sell his body to make money etc etc etc. if you are on twitter you will see people bodyshaming him, calling him jobless, moneyhungry and what not. with so much foul intent. if you are instagram, you see people telling him k i l l himself. too many vile comments about literally every aspect of his life including his dead mother.

like, there has to be a reason, right? not even ab*sers or pedophiles get this kind of treatment. why don’t people talk about the unreasonable, harmful hate and bullying tyler gets? he has made a whole video almost breaking down saying people if were in bad mental condition, than him, couldn’t tolerate the immense and intense hate he gets. does mental health not matter when it comes to tyler posey?

i keep asking this question because i really wanna know why he gets this much hate and why don’t people say anything about it?

ps: if you are on twitter, you might have already seen a couple of hate tweets about him till now, and if you are on Instagram please check his comments section on his IG video and reels (Trigger warning- d*ath wishes, extreme bullying, vile comments)

Lol, tell me what Tyler Posey has done but also don’t because I don’t want to hear it.

Originally posted by pocketofpencils

But I’m not a stan!

camelotpark:

The fact that people would believe Tyler Posey is a predator or a victim of sexual abuse before believing he is lgbtq+ shows how deep their hatred is for a man who they claim to not care about.

When you can believe someone like Tyler Hoechlin is a closeted man based on nothing but your fantasies and yet deny someone else’s sexuality and even claim something as grotesque as abuse to justify it you are being insanely homophobic.

Sickening.

And yes anon, I now fully believe they are one in the same.

*sighs* I know this is about me and that you’re the one sending the anons. You had to know someone would send me these posts so why not just be direct?

Oh yeah, because then you’ll be told how wrong you are and we can’t have that now can we?

1. I’ve never said I don’t care about Posey, I’ve been very vocal about how I do care about Posey which is why this discourse about him being queer is only going to lead to him acting out again or exposing some truth you really don’t want to know.

2. I make my predictions based on behaviors, not fantasy. You love to ignore the many many red flags Posey has thrown because it disrupts your fantasy of him being a triumphant queer POC superhero. When the truth is he’s just a man that has been hurt by the industry that’s supposed to be supporting him and he fights daily to not bend under the pressure despite the fact he’s so broken.

What’s homophobic is trying to box this man without considering that it might hurt him to be so confined.

You realize it speaks volumes for him to say over and over that he’s straight and his fan base basically goading him into saying he’s queer, right? That’s not denial it’s fear and opposite to his need for acceptance. Posey has a predictable pattern for the way he deals with things and there’s a way he would respond and tell those stories if all was well.

Let that man breathe and meet him where he is instead of trying to pull him into your fantasy world. Y'all use him so much to justify your harassment of women, LGBT and POC that I know it’s become second nature but not you gotta reconsider that nature and maybe choose to leave this alone before it gets bigger than you can handle.

Now, I know you’re gonna respond with some long winded thing where you twist my words or ignore them altogether, so I’m not going to continue this conversation. Just please keep my name out of your mouth until you’re big enough to deal with actual adult discourse.

bhadpodcast:

‘Teen Wolf’: Tyler Posey Is Back But Not All Original Cast Members Are Returning For Paramount+ Revival Movie

Teen Wolf star Tyler Posey is set to reprise his role as Scott McCall in Paramount+’s upcoming movie sequel to the 2011 MTV series. Eleven o

Deadline

And the best part:

This plus Posey trying to negotiate for more $$ and failing?

This movie is dead, lol! *smh*

Also, let’s talk for a quick second about the GALL that they would offer Arden less than SMS (obvious reasons) and Crystal (she ded)!

Also also, notice how they said the other female leads. Which means as a whole they are all getting paid less than the male leads (except Posey apparently and probably Seth).

This production can’t even announce food news right. This movie is a train wreck in slow motion!

I hope everyone is more incensed about this than excited about the show coming back.

camelotpark:

While I’m thinking about it can I just say how wild it is that someone tries and prove that racism isn’t in the fandom by saying “Well the Korean character doesn’t speak Korean and is bad at math and the actress is good at both”

And blames the writers for not showing more of her Korean side by making her doing those things?

Saying you like your poc as tropey as possible is not the flex you think it is.

Kira deserved better and the first thing she deserves is to not be put in the hands of people who complain she doesn’t fit their stereotype.

Sigh, you love intentionally twisting my words, that’s not what I said. Gonna give you a lifetime of Bengay for all those muscles you keep pullin.

And cute running to tell Stitch like her arguments are any more coherent than yours. I hope y’all can be happy being miserable together. 

camelotpark:

stickykeys633:

camelotpark:

bhadpodcast:

Sigh.. alright @princeescaluswords, @camelotpark let’s discuss

First of all, I’ve seen you do this “he’s Latino bc someone white said he loved Mexican food and his mom has an attached surname and he went to Mexico #twice shtick and I gotta tell you, I know you’re not joking and you think that’s valid and also it’s totally racist so please pocket this bc especially coming from you, it’s gross.

First let’s talk about Latinx signifiers. At no point does Scott mention a Tia, an Abuela or any form of familial connection. Even in non Spanish speaking households these signifiers exist. Teen Wolf didn’t do holidays but there’s no ofrenda in the background, not even textiles that would point to Posey’s own indigenous background. That’s because Scott McCall was written as a white character.

So what does that mean? It means he was written universally to appeal to the majority demographic watching the show. Anyone can relate to him because they see themselves when they look at him. And in order to make him relatable they shave his character down to the lowest common denominator.

Or to put it in a more obvious way, Scott McCall was written by a white man. And if a white man has written a character, and then casts a person of color who was not originally meant for the role, AND NOTHING CHANGES IN THE SCRIPT, that’s racist or at the very least fertile breeding ground for large amounts of nonsense.

The fact Jeff couldn’t be assed to include any ethnic elements to give more depth to Scott’s character is just plain lazy. He wasn’t trying to be groundbreaking, he wasn’t trying to represent other alternative latinx households, he simply did not care until he was told he would be awarded and even then it was for casting Posey, not for Scott being a character of color. Because news flash, it doesn’t matter that Posey thought Scott may be half Latinx, it’s the writers that dictate what that looks like.

Additionally, and this is a personal gripe, the idea that “well not all Latinx households speak Spanish, or have xyz signifiers!”, while that’s true and valid, it is not something that ever needs to be explored in a show where he is the only alleged latinx presence.

Another example is the way they dealt with Kira. She couldn’t speak Korean and was bad at math but Arden can speak Korean and is extremely intelligent. So why try to write an alternative experience that Arden hasn’t experienced? Why was it necessary to flip a trope with her character? This defense of Jeff’s laziness is wild justification.

In order for shows with a majority white cast to get away with this they need to have additional, traditional representation first and then they can talk about blazing paths for the unseen. Or they need to verbally address it. The problem is Jeff thought that by making Beacon Hills color blind it meant that no one could have culture, which is the entire issue with that concept.

You end up with a show where we never see any of the Black characters parents or family but Liam has a Black Daddy and Malia has two dads. Where Scott, a Latinx character has two latinx parents one of which is a single nurse mother and the other is an abusive alcoholic. You end up with a show that has not one, not two, but FOUR mystical negros!

You end up with a show where a white were panther drags a latinx character toexico and turns him into a Germanic berserker. A show where the one Latinx presence we do get is by seemingly nefarious hunters?

And omg my GAWD do not get me started either the Internment Camp romance!

You cannot couch a character of color with stereotypes and not balance it with positive cultural representation! If you do it leads to nearly a decade of fandom infighting.

Lastly, why do we see Boyd as Black?

Because we have eyes.

Posey may have latinx features, but he could also pass for Italian, for Greek, for Portuguese, for allammer of ethnicity.

Because, and this is gonna blow yall: ETHNICITY =/= RACE

The reason we are Black is because we’re not white. Let that sink in. We were judged by the color of our skin because it was easier to round us up then try to go after the white indentured servants. So the idea of Black being obvious and different is something that has been ingrained into our society for CENTURIES.

Boyd is Black but he could also be African American, he could be Haitian, he could be Jamaican, which is it Prince?

If you can tell ethnicity just by looking then what’s Boyd’s background?

Not all people of color experience racism the same way and to try and level and homogenize those experiences is dismissove, racist and reeks of white privilege. Black people have the bonus of being judged solely by our race without need for ethnic background. Blackfolk have created a culture because ours was forcibly stripped from us so miss me with “how did you know Boyd was Black, I don’t see color except for Scott who is very obviously Indigenous Mexican.” 🙄

Don’t be lazy like Jeff, don’t be boring and maybe you can work on not being wrong all the time too.

It’s Black History Month. Maybe try.

*sigh* You are so close and yet so far from the point.

No shit people don’t experience racism the same way.

That does not mean they don’t experience racism at all.

It does not mean that your particular brand of racism isn’t racism.

Such as insinuating that other races aren’t judged based solely on their skin color.

Newsflash. The only ones who don’t experience racism because of the color of their skin are white people.

Something Tyler Posey or Scott McCall never was or will be.

You seem to have this idea that there is only one form of racism. That if it isn’t yelling slurs at one particular group that it isn’t valid.

And yet even when that happens you justify it as deserved.

Don’t think I didn’t see that tweet saying that Stitch brought the harrasment and racism on herself for the things she’s done.

Just like you did with Posey.

Here is the hard fact. Scott never had to say or show one thing that dealt with Mexican and it changes absolutely nothing.

Here is your problem. In your flawed and deeply racist attempts to prove your side of fandom doesn’t have a race problem. You always show the problem.

Not to even talk of how you and your group portray Boyd as a silent yes man to two white men.

How Scott is only redeemed in his obedience to white men. White men who have abused him repeatedly at that.

You are trying to pull a divide and conquer with who truly experiences racism fandom and who doesn’t.

Yet, as has been shown, you have been racist to a lot of groups and we’ve all had enough of your bullshit sticks.

Be better, but we know you can’t.

Cam, you can’t try to act all put out and then completely contradict yourself in the first few sentences!

No shit people don’t experience racism the same way.

That does not mean they don’t experience racism at all.

Who ever said anyone doesn’t experience racism? I have said plainly over and over that Teen Wolf has a major problem with racism and then proceeded to list several examples. However, those problems neither start nor end with Scott McCall. He is part of the whole, and y'all love to act like he is the ultimate case study. And so you make up things to call racist that aren’t. The point was we knonw Boyd is Black for different reasons then we assume Scott to be Latine.

Such as insinuating that other races aren’t judged based solely on their skin color.

Lol, see? Instead of just admitting you’re wrong, y'all love to try people. Because that was neither said nor implied and again I gave VERY specific examples. You can’t take what someone says and twist it to fit your narrative and call it a good faith argument. You can’t law of contrapositive your way to being right.

You seem to have this idea that there is only one form of racism. That if it isn’t yelling slurs at one particular group that it isn’t valid.

Again, you’re creating an argument out of nothing I’ve said. Racism is racism, but every interaction is not racist because it happened to a person of color or because it came from a white person. Racism doesn’t have degrees but it does have parameters. You have to consider intent and direct effect.

Don’t think I didn’t see that tweet saying that Stitch brought the harrasment and racism on herself for the things she’s done.

Just like you did with Posey.

Mmmm, let’s not resort to lies. You wanna spread this slander you better come with receipts. For both claims.

Here is the hard fact. Scott never had to say or show one thing that dealt with Mexican and it changes absolutely nothing.

What does this even mean? It would change a lot of things, this entire argument in fact.

Not to even talk of how you and your group portray Boyd as a silent yes man to two white men.

I love you pretend that you a) care about Boyd, and b) have read anything a sterek has written about Boyd. Since he’s not Scott I’m surprised you know he exists at all.  Also, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but a throughline with the other people of color and the white people (so basically everyone) is they have to be subservient to Scott in order to be respectable. You do this all the time, especially when talking about how Derek was only redeemed bc of Scott. It’s… weird.

You are trying to pull a divide and conquer with who truly experiences racism fandom and who doesn’t.

This is particularly funny because from the beginning I’ve been ship and let ship. It’s y'all and your ~friends (the ones who use you so they can say a POC agrees with their nonsense) who decided to dismiss people of color and other marginalized groups to “defend” a fictional character. Now, who’s causing the divide?

You know, I used to sympathize with you because you were a poc and you were angry at the racist nonsense on this show. But the second you pivoted to not blaming the show, but instead blaming the viewers carte blanche? You lost me. You don’t know Jeff Davis, you don’t know Tyler Posey, I’ve probably met him more than you have.

And yet you will go out of your mind in his name instead of interacting with the fans who have formed an awesome community around this show.

That’s sad, and we know misery loves company so as long as you can get others in your ranks then it means you’re okay and you’re not alone. And if in order to get them you try to use shame and try to twist their words and accuse them of every -ism under the sun, well then, the ends justify the means, don’t they?

You know how I deal with fandom racism? I respectfully and nicely make an inquiry about something I may not have understood. And if they respond kindly we have a back and forth and things are learned and behaviors are changed. And for the people that don’t write back or that respond defensively? I block them or just scroll past because you can’t change people. Especially not by lying to them there’s a reason the same stereks are still around and yet the Scott stand turn over every few years. You get to a point where you’re just tired of inducing the negativity in a way that does’t effect any change.

Aren’t you tired yet, Cam?

I have no need to quote you as people can read your drivel themselves.

Mentioning Scott’s race on show doesn’t change anything because he is Mexican with, or without, it.

Happy I cleared that up for you.

You want so badly to pretend that the racism is just in show and not in fandom. You’ve been given many instances where that is not the case. You know racism is filtered deeply in fandom. You refusing to acknowledge it will never change that.

I will quote one thing.

”Let’s not resort to lies. Come with receipts“

Don’t ever try me. You’ll always come up short.

Lol, I realize everything looks short when the bar is underneath the ground, but I don’t “try”, I give you facts, it’s a difference, not a challenge. 

Mentioning Scott’s race on show doesn’t change anything because he is Mexican with, or without, it.

Not definitively, he’s literally not. He is white or he’s “other” which is why representation matters. Because the show has established that the characters don’t always mimic the ethnicities of their actors. And Posey has features that could fit several ethnic classes. Now you’re just being obtuse to appear defiant, but you’re still very wrong on this. 

You want so badly to pretend that the racism is just in show and not in fandom.

My dearheart, I’ve never said this, claimed it or implied it. Just because you chose to ignore it doesn’t mean the many receipts to the contrary in these posts don’t exist. Scroll up, brah. 

As for the screencaps, I’ll admit I originally misread what you said. In the past when you’ve used this argument it was mainly about you claiming I said they deserve the backlash, which has never happened. What I said simply is their actions is what caused it, that’s not hateful it’s true. Stitch loves to put my name in her mouth, but the second she’s talked about she has a fit and screams racism. It’s not automatically racism when you’re a jerk. 

Now, I’m not going to pretend that you don’t know some of the VERY messed up things Posey has done. I don’t even know which one I was referring to in that post, but I guarantee it was something ridiculous. Getting called out for being ridiculous is not racist. 

I get y’all are trying to start a movement wherein our skin color protects us (well, those of us who agree with you) and we can disrespect people and treat them cruelly with no negative repurcussions, but it’s simply not true. If you do dirt, you get dirty. I probably could have used more tact wording it, but by that point I was probably done with it. 

Just like I’m done with this since we’re starting to go in circles. 

camelotpark:

bhadpodcast:

Sigh.. alright @princeescaluswords, @camelotpark let’s discuss

First of all, I’ve seen you do this “he’s Latino bc someone white said he loved Mexican food and his mom has an attached surname and he went to Mexico #twice shtick and I gotta tell you, I know you’re not joking and you think that’s valid and also it’s totally racist so please pocket this bc especially coming from you, it’s gross.

First let’s talk about Latinx signifiers. At no point does Scott mention a Tia, an Abuela or any form of familial connection. Even in non Spanish speaking households these signifiers exist. Teen Wolf didn’t do holidays but there’s no ofrenda in the background, not even textiles that would point to Posey’s own indigenous background. That’s because Scott McCall was written as a white character.

So what does that mean? It means he was written universally to appeal to the majority demographic watching the show. Anyone can relate to him because they see themselves when they look at him. And in order to make him relatable they shave his character down to the lowest common denominator.

Or to put it in a more obvious way, Scott McCall was written by a white man. And if a white man has written a character, and then casts a person of color who was not originally meant for the role, AND NOTHING CHANGES IN THE SCRIPT, that’s racist or at the very least fertile breeding ground for large amounts of nonsense.

The fact Jeff couldn’t be assed to include any ethnic elements to give more depth to Scott’s character is just plain lazy. He wasn’t trying to be groundbreaking, he wasn’t trying to represent other alternative latinx households, he simply did not care until he was told he would be awarded and even then it was for casting Posey, not for Scott being a character of color. Because news flash, it doesn’t matter that Posey thought Scott may be half Latinx, it’s the writers that dictate what that looks like.

Additionally, and this is a personal gripe, the idea that "well not all Latinx households speak Spanish, or have xyz signifiers!”, while that’s true and valid, it is not something that ever needs to be explored in a show where he is the only alleged latinx presence.

Another example is the way they dealt with Kira. She couldn’t speak Korean and was bad at math but Arden can speak Korean and is extremely intelligent. So why try to write an alternative experience that Arden hasn’t experienced? Why was it necessary to flip a trope with her character? This defense of Jeff’s laziness is wild justification.

In order for shows with a majority white cast to get away with this they need to have additional, traditional representation first and then they can talk about blazing paths for the unseen. Or they need to verbally address it. The problem is Jeff thought that by making Beacon Hills color blind it meant that no one could have culture, which is the entire issue with that concept.

You end up with a show where we never see any of the Black characters parents or family but Liam has a Black Daddy and Malia has two dads. Where Scott, a Latinx character has two latinx parents one of which is a single nurse mother and the other is an abusive alcoholic. You end up with a show that has not one, not two, but FOUR mystical negros!

You end up with a show where a white were panther drags a latinx character toexico and turns him into a Germanic berserker. A show where the one Latinx presence we do get is by seemingly nefarious hunters?

And omg my GAWD do not get me started either the Internment Camp romance!

You cannot couch a character of color with stereotypes and not balance it with positive cultural representation! If you do it leads to nearly a decade of fandom infighting.

Lastly, why do we see Boyd as Black?

Because we have eyes.

Posey may have latinx features, but he could also pass for Italian, for Greek, for Portuguese, for allammer of ethnicity.

Because, and this is gonna blow yall: ETHNICITY =/= RACE

The reason we are Black is because we’re not white. Let that sink in. We were judged by the color of our skin because it was easier to round us up then try to go after the white indentured servants. So the idea of Black being obvious and different is something that has been ingrained into our society for CENTURIES.

Boyd is Black but he could also be African American, he could be Haitian, he could be Jamaican, which is it Prince?

If you can tell ethnicity just by looking then what’s Boyd’s background?

Not all people of color experience racism the same way and to try and level and homogenize those experiences is dismissove, racist and reeks of white privilege. Black people have the bonus of being judged solely by our race without need for ethnic background. Blackfolk have created a culture because ours was forcibly stripped from us so miss me with “how did you know Boyd was Black, I don’t see color except for Scott who is very obviously Indigenous Mexican.” 🙄

Don’t be lazy like Jeff, don’t be boring and maybe you can work on not being wrong all the time too.

It’s Black History Month. Maybe try.

*sigh* You are so close and yet so far from the point.

No shit people don’t experience racism the same way.

That does not mean they don’t experience racism at all.

It does not mean that your particular brand of racism isn’t racism.

Such as insinuating that other races aren’t judged based solely on their skin color.

Newsflash. The only ones who don’t experience racism because of the color of their skin are white people.

Something Tyler Posey or Scott McCall never was or will be.

You seem to have this idea that there is only one form of racism. That if it isn’t yelling slurs at one particular group that it isn’t valid.

And yet even when that happens you justify it as deserved.

Don’t think I didn’t see that tweet saying that Stitch brought the harrasment and racism on herself for the things she’s done.

Just like you did with Posey.

Here is the hard fact. Scott never had to say or show one thing that dealt with Mexican and it changes absolutely nothing.

Here is your problem. In your flawed and deeply racist attempts to prove your side of fandom doesn’t have a race problem. You always show the problem.

Not to even talk of how you and your group portray Boyd as a silent yes man to two white men.

How Scott is only redeemed in his obedience to white men. White men who have abused him repeatedly at that.

You are trying to pull a divide and conquer with who truly experiences racism fandom and who doesn’t.

Yet, as has been shown, you have been racist to a lot of groups and we’ve all had enough of your bullshit sticks.

Be better, but we know you can’t.

Cam, you can’t try to act all put out and then completely contradict yourself in the first few sentences!

No shit people don’t experience racism the same way.

That does not mean they don’t experience racism at all.

Who ever said anyone doesn’t experience racism? I have said plainly over and over that Teen Wolf has a major problem with racism and then proceeded to list several examples. However, those problems neither start nor end with Scott McCall. He is part of the whole, and y'all love to act like he is the ultimate case study. And so you make up things to call racist that aren’t. The point was we knonw Boyd is Black for different reasons then we assume Scott to be Latine.

Such as insinuating that other races aren’t judged based solely on their skin color.

Lol, see? Instead of just admitting you’re wrong, y'all love to try people. Because that was neither said nor implied and again I gave VERY specific examples. You can’t take what someone says and twist it to fit your narrative and call it a good faith argument. You can’t law of contrapositive your way to being right.

You seem to have this idea that there is only one form of racism. That if it isn’t yelling slurs at one particular group that it isn’t valid.

Again, you’re creating an argument out of nothing I’ve said. Racism is racism, but every interaction is not racist because it happened to a person of color or because it came from a white person. Racism doesn’t have degrees but it does have parameters. You have to consider intent and direct effect.

Don’t think I didn’t see that tweet saying that Stitch brought the harrasment and racism on herself for the things she’s done.

Just like you did with Posey.

Mmmm, let’s not resort to lies. You wanna spread this slander you better come with receipts. For both claims.

Here is the hard fact. Scott never had to say or show one thing that dealt with Mexican and it changes absolutely nothing.

What does this even mean? It would change a lot of things, this entire argument in fact.

Not to even talk of how you and your group portray Boyd as a silent yes man to two white men.

I love you pretend that you a) care about Boyd, and b) have read anything a sterek has written about Boyd. Since he’s not Scott I’m surprised you know he exists at all.  Also, I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but a throughline with the other people of color and the white people (so basically everyone) is they have to be subservient to Scott in order to be respectable. You do this all the time, especially when talking about how Derek was only redeemed bc of Scott. It’s… weird.

You are trying to pull a divide and conquer with who truly experiences racism fandom and who doesn’t.

This is particularly funny because from the beginning I’ve been ship and let ship. It’s y'all and your ~friends (the ones who use you so they can say a POC agrees with their nonsense) who decided to dismiss people of color and other marginalized groups to “defend” a fictional character. Now, who’s causing the divide?

You know, I used to sympathize with you because you were a poc and you were angry at the racist nonsense on this show. But the second you pivoted to not blaming the show, but instead blaming the viewers carte blanche? You lost me. You don’t know Jeff Davis, you don’t know Tyler Posey, I’ve probably met him more than you have.

And yet you will go out of your mind in his name instead of interacting with the fans who have formed an awesome community around this show.

That’s sad, and we know misery loves company so as long as you can get others in your ranks then it means you’re okay and you’re not alone. And if in order to get them you try to use shame and try to twist their words and accuse them of every -ism under the sun, well then, the ends justify the means, don’t they?

You know how I deal with fandom racism? I respectfully and nicely make an inquiry about something I may not have understood. And if they respond kindly we have a back and forth and things are learned and behaviors are changed. And for the people that don’t write back or that respond defensively? I block them or just scroll past because you can’t change people. Especially not by lying to them there’s a reason the same stereks are still around and yet the Scott stand turn over every few years. You get to a point where you’re just tired of inducing the negativity in a way that does’t effect any change.

Aren’t you tired yet, Cam?